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Go EFF! Hack the cars!

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https://supporters.eff.org/civicrm/mail ... =1&id=1234
EFF Wins Petition to Inspect and Modify Car Software

Exemption Requests Also Approved for Tweaking Abandoned Videogames, Jailbreaking Phones and Tablets, and Remixing Videos


Washington, D.C. - The Librarian of Congress has granted security researchers and others the right to inspect and modify the software in their cars and other vehicles, despite protests from vehicle manufacturers. The Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) filed the request for software access as part of the complex, triennial rulemaking process that determines exemptions from Section 1201 of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA).
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OK for the exemption for the DMCA, but The House has a bill in draft that specifically restricts usability and access to vehicle functions that is completely independent of the DMCA.
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I hope this stuff gets straightened out... I'm sorry, I buy a car (or whatever) and I should be able to do whatever the hell I want with it!
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Just like I buy a wireless router from Verizon and then get a nasty gram from them because I used the embedded UI to change the values outside of what they want - threaten to make me liable for the replacement cost ($600) of the hardware that I "broke"?
Yeah, the cost of ownership. Right.
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You serious? That's NUTS!
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it'll be interesting when subpoenas are issued for ECU logs becomes the norm. "well, your changes caused xyz." in light of the VW emissions thing, software is only going to become a bigger issue, legally speaking.
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