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2009/1010 Winter tire discussion

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 3:39 pm
by Sabre
Hey all,
After a couple of seasons on my winter tires, it's time to get some new ones! I figured I'd start a new thread since there are new tires every year seemingly! (all prices for 225/45R17 unless otherwise noted)

Michelin Pilot Alpin PA3 - Currently the top rated tire on Tire Rack. ~$152 ebay ~175 TR
Michelin X-Ice Xi2 - Another highly rated Ice/Snow tire. ~$149 TR
Bridgestone Blizzak WS-60 - Elzorro's favorite ;) ~137 TR
Hankook Optimo H727 - Consumer Reports Best Buy 225/50/R17 ~$105
Michelin Primacy MXV4 - Consumer Reports Best Buy ~$156 Tires2Go ~$176 TR
Michelin HydroEdge - Consumer Reports Best Buy 225/55/R17 ~$143 TR
Dunlop Wintersport M3 - $187 TR
Dunlop Wintersport 3D - ~$146 TR
General AltiMAX Arctic. - ~$107.00 TR

What's everyone's thoughts? Here are the ones that I have owned and some quick thoughts:

Conti Extreme Contact: Moderate in price, handled try/wet/snow/ice very well.
WS-50: Moderate in price, handled well in most conditions.
Revo 1: Cheap, but didn't handle very well in dry. Wet traction was not good at all. Snow traction was average.

Re: 2009/1010 Winter tire discussion

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 10:20 pm
by chicken n waffles
i was more than happy with my blizzaks. can't speak for the others.

Re: 2009/1010 Winter tire discussion

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 7:58 am
by sirwilliam
My old WS-50s were great in snow and ice but lacked in handling due to soft sidewalls.

My new Michelin Primacy Alpin P3s work good in snow and ice but are better suited for higher speeds and have a stiffer sidewall.

It is really up to you what you prefer and it is kind of hard to really judge winter tires if you can't just go through the whole lot of them in the same day.

I know a bunch of foz owners really like the Hankook iPike but I personally haven't tried them out.

Re: 2009/1010 Winter tire discussion

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 11:06 am
by complacent
I've also had great results with the Blizzaks.

Re: 2009/1010 Winter tire discussion

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 5:34 am
by Cereb Daithi
You forgot the Dunlop Wintersport M3 and 3D. Both VERY good winter tires. I used the 3Ds last year and will be using the M3s this year.

Both work well in the ice and snow and offer some of the best dry traction of any winter tire I've come across.

Re: 2009/1010 Winter tire discussion

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 10:50 am
by Sabre
Added :)

Re: 2009/1010 Winter tire discussion

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 10:02 pm
by Cereb Daithi
I just purchased M3 run-on-flats. I'll post a review once I get a chance to actually put them on and use them.

Re: 2009/1010 Winter tire discussion

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 10:08 pm
by darwin
I have Bridgestone Blizzaks on the '04 Evo and they work pretty well. The studded Nokian Hakkapeliittas I used on Eagle Talon during the Alcan Winter Rally were fantastic and the non-studded version was also excellent.

Re: 2009/1010 Winter tire discussion

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 8:58 am
by zaxrex
Studded in VA/DC/MD? :rolllaugh:
I know we get a lot of freezing rain, but comeon, is that enough to run illegal tires?
Blizzaks are have kept this Zak on the road...

Re: 2009/1010 Winter tire discussion

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 9:08 am
by thermobox
I'm a huge fan of the conti's but they have dropped the name/tread pattern this year. I'm debating which one to use also.

Re: 2009/1010 Winter tire discussion

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 12:58 pm
by Sabre
darwin wrote:I have Bridgestone Blizzaks on the '04 Evo and they work pretty well. The studded Nokian Hakkapeliittas I used on Eagle Talon during the Alcan Winter Rally were fantastic and the non-studded version was also excellent.
zaxrex wrote:Studded in VA/DC/MD? :rolllaugh:
I know we get a lot of freezing rain, but comeon, is that enough to run illegal tires?
Blizzaks are have kept this Zak on the road...
lol, the Alcan is on the West coast of Canada and in Alaska... I'd be wearing studded tires too!

Re: 2009/1010 Winter tire discussion

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 11:40 pm
by darwin
The studded tires were for Canada and Alaska. The roads were ice and there was racing on frozen lakes.

Re: 2009/1010 Winter tire discussion

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 12:16 am
by complacent
darwin wrote: The roads were ice and there was racing on frozen lakes.
semi-related - i reeeeeeely want to do this on a ice-ready motorcycle. 8)

Re: 2009/1010 Winter tire discussion

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 2:48 pm
by ElZorro
complacent wrote:
darwin wrote: The roads were ice and there was racing on frozen lakes.
semi-related - i reeeeeeely want to do this on a ice-ready motorcycle. 8)
They did it on lakes in the area I grew up in, was amazing to watch. :)

Re: 2009/1010 Winter tire discussion

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 3:51 pm
by sirwilliam
ElZorro wrote: They did it on lakes in the area I grew up in, was amazing to watch. :)
I think this was a planned quote, eh? :wink: :lol:

Re: 2009/1010 Winter tire discussion

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 7:08 pm
by WRXWagon2112
ElZorro wrote:
complacent wrote:
darwin wrote: The roads were ice and there was racing on frozen lakes.
semi-related - i reeeeeeely want to do this on a ice-ready motorcycle. 8)
They did it on lakes in the area I grew up in, was amazing to watch. :)
My parents used to do that in Cornwall, Ontario with their '67 Mustang. Pre-children, of course.

--Alan

Re: 2009/1010 Winter tire discussion

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 8:42 pm
by complacent
WRXWagon2112 wrote:
ElZorro wrote: They did it on lakes in the area I grew up in, was amazing to watch. :)
My parents used to do that in Cornwall, Ontario with their '67 Mustang. Pre-children, of course.

--Alan

I remember your moms talking about that at your wedding reception! :nana: w00t!

Re: 2009/1010 Winter tire discussion

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 11:45 am
by scheherazade
zaxrex wrote:Studded in VA/DC/MD? :rolllaugh:
I know we get a lot of freezing rain, but comeon, is that enough to run illegal tires?
Blizzaks are have kept this Zak on the road...
I had no idea... so I looked up what I could find...
This is what came up.

http://www.tire-information-world.com/t ... tions.html
Maryland Not permitted except in western counties Nov.1-March 31.
Virginia Permitted Oct. 15-April 15.
Dist. of Columbia Permitted Oct. 15-April 15.



Oh,and :

http://www.dieseljo.com/images_ice_pict ... e_bike.jpg

:D

-scheherazade

Re: 2009/1010 Winter tire discussion

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 11:59 am
by Sabre
Have an appointment on Monday to get WS-60's put on :)

Re: 2009/1010 Winter tire discussion

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 2:08 pm
by sirwilliam
Sabre wrote:Have an appointment on Monday to get WS-60's put on :)
A very logical and wise choice, indeed.

Re: 2009/1010 Winter tire discussion

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 4:26 pm
by Sabre
Especially for $650 installed :)

Re: 2009/1010 Winter tire discussion

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 6:06 pm
by drwrx
There is one tire that nobody has mentioned and since it rated very highly in a TireRack test I felt I needed to pass it along:
General AltiMAX Arctic. Yes they are Studdable but got very high ratings w/o studs. 8.39 w/o studs 9.28 with
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/tes ... p?ttid=123
The price is also very appealing: 225/45R17 $107.00 (each)

Re: 2009/1010 Winter tire discussion

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 2:15 pm
by schvin
scheherazade wrote:
!!!!!!

Re: 2009/1010 Winter tire discussion

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 10:41 am
by complacent
scheherazade wrote: Oh,and :

http://www.dieseljo.com/images_ice_pict ... e_bike.jpg

:D

-scheherazade

That's exactly what I'm talking about! The "burn outs" are quite funny too.

:ya:

Re: 2009/1010 Winter tire discussion

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 10:51 am
by Sabre
Updated the first post with Darrin's suggested tire as well :)