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Smoke comung from under the turbo

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 9:21 am
by goob_os101
This has happened twice in the past 6 months. It occurs when I am leaving work. It is about 1/4mile of15-25mph roads and them smoke starts coming from the hood scoop. I pull over, open the hood and the smoke is coming from directly under the turbo. No smoke from the exhaust or anywhere else. So, I drive the 5 or so miles more and it stops. When I get home there is no more smoke(additional 10 miles) Any Ideas?

Re: Smoke comung from under the turbo

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 10:12 am
by Sabre
More than likely one of the oil lines (inlet on top of the turbo, exit on the bottom) is leaking a little. You should be able to see the residue. The outlet on the bottom is only held on by a pinch clamp.... which is very weak if taken off. Anyway, it's probably one of those two. It should be easy to fix!

Re: Smoke comung from under the turbo

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 12:36 pm
by complacent
^^ What he said.

Also, there's a small chance that there's a leaky coolant line also/instead of. Though that would be more consistent smoking.

Re: Smoke comung from under the turbo

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 5:14 pm
by drwrx
Does the smoke have an odor?
If it is sweet (like maple syrup) it's coolant.
If it is acrid and burns your eyes it's oil.

Re: Smoke comung from under the turbo

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 1:06 pm
by goob_os101
its def oil...having it checked out now

Re: Smoke comung from under the turbo

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 1:18 pm
by complacent
drwrx wrote: If it is acrid and burns your eyes it's oil.

I just want to point out the perfect use of this word.

Re: Smoke comung from under the turbo

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 10:09 am
by ElZorro
Main Entry: ac·rid
Pronunciation: \ˈa-krəd\
Function: adjective
Etymology: modification of Latin acr-, acer sharp — more at edge
Date: 1712

1 : sharp and harsh or unpleasantly pungent in taste or odor : irritating
2 : deeply or violently bitter
I think we found Gabe's next license plate. :)

Re: Smoke comung from under the turbo

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 1:50 pm
by Mr Kleen
I'm not that bad. :(

Re: Smoke comung from under the turbo

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 1:55 pm
by ElZorro
:rolllaugh: :rolllaugh:

Re: Smoke comung from under the turbo

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 7:06 pm
by chicken n waffles
=x

Re: Smoke comung from under the turbo

Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 1:07 am
by zaxrex
What was the result of the checkup? Healthy car now?

Re: Smoke comung from under the turbo

Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 8:59 am
by goob_os101
oil is spraying onto the underside of the turbo. Happened to me on Thursday again. It smokes for for about 2-3 min then stops.

Re: Smoke comung from under the turbo

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 10:32 am
by Sabre
Yep, it's that stupid wire clamp then. I hate to tell you this, but it's a BITCH. You'll want to put a hose clamp on both ends of it to make sure the sucker stays on ok. Basically, this means removing the turbo.

Re: Smoke comung from under the turbo

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 10:42 am
by drwrx
Sabre wrote:Yep, it's that stupid wire clamp then. I hate to tell you this, but it's a BITCH. You'll want to put a hose clamp on both ends of it to make sure the sucker stays on ok. Basically, this means removing the turbo.
He's dead on. If you can stand a little smoke I would let this go until you HAVE to take the turbo off. Yes, you'll burn a little oil, but I wouldn't do the 4+ hours worth of work for just that.

Re: Smoke comung from under the turbo

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 12:08 pm
by ElZorro
drwrx wrote:you'll burn a little oil
You make Captain Planet sad.

Re: Smoke comung from under the turbo

Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 10:10 am
by goob_os101
well I have to take the DP and UP off soon would that give enough room?

Re: Smoke comung from under the turbo

Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 10:27 am
by Sabre
That's about half of it... Getting the turbo and turbo inlet pipe off is the other part and that is not easy. It's not unusual for it to take 4-5 hours for a turbo swap. You have to take the turbo off in order to get to both sides of the hose.

I would definitely try to do the DP/UP and fix the turbo at the same time, just plan to be in the shop for 8 hours if everything goes smoothly.

Re: Smoke comung from under the turbo

Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 11:59 am
by complacent
Sabre wrote:That's about half of it... Getting the turbo and turbo inlet pipe off is the other part and that is not easy. It's not unusual for it to take 4-5 hours for a turbo swap. You have to take the turbo off in order to get to both sides of the hose.

I would definitely try to do the DP/UP and fix the turbo at the same time, just plan to be in the shop for 8 hours if everything goes smoothly.
:plusone: x eleventy!

All it takes is one stubborn uppipe stud or a ripped coolant line and your downtime just tripled.

Re: Smoke comung from under the turbo

Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 1:08 pm
by drwrx
The only reason I take my turbo off is to swap it. Other than that, it stays on!

Re: Smoke comung from under the turbo

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 11:01 am
by goob_os101
anyone have a spare VF series turbo laying around :plusone:

Re: Smoke comung from under the turbo

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 3:27 pm
by sirwilliam
goob_os101 wrote:anyone have a spare VF series turbo laying around :plusone:
I have a brand new TD05 18G that I am not using. Would be great for your ride :D

Re: Smoke comung from under the turbo

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 10:17 pm
by goob_os101
If I had the 2.5L but I think the 18g would be a little much for a DD...could be wrong :poke:

Re: Smoke comung from under the turbo

Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 8:11 am
by sirwilliam
goob_os101 wrote:If I had the 2.5L but I think the 18g would be a little much for a DD...could be wrong :poke:
Actually, it is a great turbo for the 2.0L and it is like a VF39/34 but holds the power better on the top end. More similar to the new VF48. I just didn't use it b/c my schedule never matched up w/ a tuner's schedule, so the AP had a plugnplay VF43 map that I went with. The TD05 is a better turbo than the VF43 but it is already installed so I am just running w/ it. The TD05 is also a more efficient turbo. I actually finally got our schedules to workout so I am getting a protune on Saturday from Jorge :drive: ...it has only been ~2yrs in the works. :roll: :lol:

Re: Smoke comung from under the turbo

Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 8:53 am
by drwrx
The TD05-18G is a 40 lb/min turbo with a larger exhaust housing than the 35 lb/min vf43. It will spool slightly slower than a vf series turbo (about 200 RPMs or so) but will push higher boost levels through a longer rev cycle.

I am currently running an 8cm TD05-18G on my 02 Wagon at 20psi for 310 whp / 290 lb/ft.
To get the most out of the 18G you will need some fuel upgrades. Ideally you would want them for any turbo upgrade on the 2.0 as the injectors and fuel-pump just don't push enough fuel.

Re: Smoke comung from under the turbo

Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 9:09 am
by sirwilliam
Just a note, it is the TD05-18G 7cm^2 model so spool will be slightly faster than the 8cm^2 model...better suited for the 2.0L motor.