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Saab Files for Bankruptcy Protection

Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 8:11 am
by WRXWagon2112
For WashingtonPost.com:
GM unit Saab files for protection from creditors

By KARL RITTER
The Associated Press
Friday, February 20, 2009; 7:27 AM

STOCKHOLM -- General Motors Corp.'s Swedish-based subsidiary Saab filed for bankruptcy protection Friday so the unit can be spun off or sold by its struggling U.S. parent, officials said.

The move comes after Sweden turned down GM's request for government help for Saab.

An application to reorganize the brand was filed at a district court in Vanersborg, in southwestern Sweden, Saab spokeswoman Margareta Hogstrom said.

The Swedish government on Wednesday rejected a request from loss-making GM to inject money into the carmaker. GM, which is seeking help from the U.S. government to avoid bankruptcy at home, has been looking for buyers for Saab but said it needs more funding to spin off or sell the division.

"We explored and will continue to explore all available options for funding and/or selling Saab and it was determined a formal restructuring would be the best way to create a truly independent entity that is ready for investment," Saab's managing director, Jan Ake Jonsson, said in a statement.

The move would give Saab protection from creditors while it restructures in a process similar to a Chapter 11 bankruptcy in the U.S.

"Pending court approval, the reorganization will be executed over a three-month period and will require independent funding to succeed," Saab said, adding it would seek funding "from both public and private sources."

However, government officials seemed to rule out financial assistance. "I'm not sure what they're referring to, because support in the form of money is not on the agenda," Industry Ministry spokesman Hakan Lind said.

Industry Minister Maud Olofsson told Swedish news agency TT it was "very hard to say what our role will be."

On Wednesday, Olofsson rejected GM's plea for state funding for Saab, saying it was up to the U.S. automaker to save the brand.

In its own restructuring plan, GM said Tuesday it would need up to $30 billion from the U.S. Treasury Department, up from a previous estimate of $18 billion and including $13.4 billion it has already received. It also said it would need to cut 47,000 jobs worldwide and close five more U.S. factories

GM said it needed about $6 billion in support from the governments of Canada, Germany, Britain, Sweden and Thailand to provide liquidity for its overseas operations in those countries.

The Detroit automaker said it had developed a proposal that would cap its financial support of Saab with the Trollhattan-based automaker's operations "effectively becoming an independent business entity" by Jan. 1, 2010.

Saab has around 4,500 workers in more than 50 countries. Its main markets include the U.S. Britain, Sweden, Germany, Italy, Australia, France, the Netherlands, and Norway, with most of its production located in Sweden.

With three new models ready for launch in the next 18 months _ the 9-5, 9-3X and 9-4X _ managing director Jonsson said Saab has "an excellent foundation" to grow, assuming it can get funding for engineering, tooling and launch costs.

"Reorganization will give us time and means that help these products to market while minimizing the liquidity impact of Saab on GM," Jonsson said.

But analysts questioned whether Saab could survive on its own since it is a small player in the battered global auto industry.

"It doesn't have the economies of scale or the deep pockets," said Stephen Pope, chief global markets strategist for Cantor Fitzgerald. "Perhaps they're just trying dress it up for buyers."

Originally an aircraft maker, Saab started manufacturing cars after World War II. General Motors bought a 50 percent stake and management control of Saab Automobile in 1989 and gained full ownership in 2000. The aircraft division remains a different company.
--Alan

Re: Saab Files for Bankruptcy Protection

Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 10:07 am
by Mr Kleen
I'm not a Saab fan myself. that said, I fear things will get a lot worse before they get any better. :|

Re: Saab Files for Bankruptcy Protection

Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 12:00 pm
by drwrx
Who didn't see this coming?

Once GM cut them loose that was pretty much it.

Re: Saab Files for Bankruptcy Protection

Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 12:30 pm
by snaab
I can't say I didn't see it coming eventually, but I am sad to see its decline and eventual death.

Re: Saab Files for Bankruptcy Protection

Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 1:35 pm
by drwrx
I'm not certain it will die completely so soon.
There were 93,388 Saabs sold worldwide in 2008.
While that is pittance on the world market, it is probably still enough to keep the company alive for a little while.

Re: Saab Files for Bankruptcy Protection

Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 3:06 pm
by chicken n waffles
i've always had a soft spot for the awkward swedish brand. hope they don't go belly up. :(

Re: Saab Files for Bankruptcy Protection

Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 9:52 pm
by Sabre
chicken n waffles wrote:i've always had a soft spot for the awkward swedish brand. hope they don't go belly up. :(
Same here :( Let's hope the make it through it!

Re: Saab Files for Bankruptcy Protection

Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 9:26 pm
by zaxrex
I can only imagine what it costs to run the company. The parts and service for my 9000 alone should have kept them running for a few minutes.

Re: Saab Files for Bankruptcy Protection

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 12:45 am
by complacent
I've always been impressed with their innovation (variable compression motors, in-cylinder monitoring, etc) and I'll be very saddened to see that go.

:(

Re: Saab Files for Bankruptcy Protection

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 9:44 pm
by zaxrex
They were also the first company to have water injection in their factory vehicles!
I like.

Re: Saab Files for Bankruptcy Protection

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 9:53 pm
by snaab
If I were a bored billionaire, I would rescue it. Alas, I have only five spare dollars. Sorry!

Re: Saab Files for Bankruptcy Protection

Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 5:03 pm
by zaxrex
Hmmm I guess the letter 'n' is worth $5.
That is the only difference I see between Saab and Snaab :lol:

Re: Saab Files for Bankruptcy Protection

Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 6:02 am
by WRXWagon2112
It's looking even worse for Saab ... customs officials want their money!!!
AutoBlog wrote:New reports this afternoon indicate that Swedish tax authorities have effectively shut down Saab until the automaker pays back unpaid customs duties. Many of the parts that make up today's Saabs are sourced from suppliers and General Motors plants outside of the European Union, and customs officials have halted the shipment of those parts. Without a supply chain, the Trollhättan plant has been forced to stop production.

According to The Local, an English-language Swedish news outlet, Saab's production manager, Gunnar Brunius, hoped to have the situation resolved by this evening. But the fact the duties haven't been paid is a sign of the cash flow problems at parent company General Motors. Customs officials haven't disclosed how much money is owed other than to say the amount is "considerable."

Earlier this week, Saab filed for the Swedish equivalent of Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection. If GM is unwilling or unable to pony up the cash to pay the bills, Saab will have to find another benefactor. The Swedish government already rejected a bailout last week, so Saab's future is increasingly unclear. Is this the end of the Griffon?
--Alan

Re: Saab Files for Bankruptcy Protection

Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 8:07 am
by drwrx
Wow. I had thought they would last a little longer.
Nothing quite like your own Gov. shutting you down.
I think it's a bit sad. OK your not going to "bailout" one of your only automakers, I get that, tough love and all.
But to demand customs duties that effectively shuts them down? That seems a bit harsh.

Re: Saab Files for Bankruptcy Protection

Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:21 am
by zaxrex
They may have penalties from the EU if a country does not impose and collect import taxes. I could understand that. If I had to choose between forcing an auto company (that is going to go under) out of business, or getting kicked out of the EU, it would be easy.

Re: Saab Files for Bankruptcy Protection

Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 11:09 am
by complacent
WRXWagon2112 wrote:It's looking even worse for Saab ... customs officials want their money!!!
AutoBlog wrote:New reports this afternoon indicate that Swedish tax authorities have effectively shut down Saab until the automaker pays back unpaid customs duties. Many of the parts that make up today's Saabs are sourced from suppliers and General Motors plants outside of the European Union, and customs officials have halted the shipment of those parts. Without a supply chain, the Trollhättan plant has been forced to stop production.

According to The Local, an English-language Swedish news outlet, Saab's production manager, Gunnar Brunius, hoped to have the situation resolved by this evening. But the fact the duties haven't been paid is a sign of the cash flow problems at parent company General Motors. Customs officials haven't disclosed how much money is owed other than to say the amount is "considerable."

Earlier this week, Saab filed for the Swedish equivalent of Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection. If GM is unwilling or unable to pony up the cash to pay the bills, Saab will have to find another benefactor. The Swedish government already rejected a bailout last week, so Saab's future is increasingly unclear. Is this the end of the Griffon?
--Alan
Oh damn! That's horrible for everyone involved. :(

"Can I get and oil filter for my Saab 9......"
"NO."

:( :(

Re: Saab Files for Bankruptcy Protection

Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 9:36 pm
by zaxrex
Someone is going to get a sweet deal on a $800 ignition cassette and a $400 fuel pump module for a 9000-CS.
Someone got the whole car for $200
:(

Re: Saab Files for Bankruptcy Protection

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 7:54 am
by WRXWagon2112
Despite the fact that GM is trying to get rid of the brand, GM sends reassuring letter to Saab owners:
AutoBlog wrote:Damage control must be in full swing at General Motors these days with the recent announcement that Saab and Saturn are on the outs and Pontiac will forge on with a reduced product portfolio. Just yesterday, Susan Docherty, VP of Buick/Pontiac/GMC, published a post on GM's Fastlane blog saying that "Pontiac is alive and kicking, and we are still part of GM's future plans." Fair enough, but what about Saturn and Saab?

A few weeks back, Saturn General Manager Jill Lajdziak sent reassuring letters to the owners of Saturn automobiles suggesting that the brand will live on, even if that means bringing in products from other automakers. Now, Mark C. McNabb, Vice President of GM's Premium Channel, has done the same for Saab owners. The two notes follow a similar pattern, first reminding owners why their specific brand is different from the rest and then highlighting why its corporate parents are pushing it out of the nest.

The underlining theme in both letters is one of hope for a future where each brand is able to carve out its own profitable niche in the global automotive marketplace and, of course, soliciting for continued sales from brand loyalists with assurances that their warranties will remain intact.
I really oughta stop posting these things. It's like I'm a whore for AutoBlog... :(

--Alan

Re: Saab Files for Bankruptcy Protection

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 9:24 am
by complacent
WRXWagon2112 wrote: I really oughta stop posting these things. It's like I'm a whore for AutoBlog... :(

--Alan

Heavens NO man! Autoblog has much yummy goodness and some of us rarely make it away from DCAWD to visit the rest of the internets ;)



*Awaits 3.67 trillion "There's internets out there??!?!1one" responses...*

Re: Saab Files for Bankruptcy Protection

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 4:16 pm
by schvin

Re: Saab Files for Bankruptcy Protection

Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 11:45 am
by zaxrex
How Sweden got its Saab back.
Step 1) Cut quirky misunderstood brand from overextended behind the times auto company
Step 2) Find luxury supercar millionaire from Sweeden to buy it
Step 3) Now that it is back home, the government can excuse debts and sponsor for financing anew.

What will a Saab with newly injected DNA be called?
The Koenigsaab, perhaps?

Re: Saab Files for Bankruptcy Protection

Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 6:46 pm
by Sabre
One can only hope this will help!!!

Re: Saab Files for Bankruptcy Protection

Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 2:14 am
by scheherazade
http://www.saabusa.com/saabjsp/concepts/index.jsp

The "9-x air" and 'aero-x" concept cars are HOTT

I wish they would make and market these concept cars instead of just designing them ... and instead putting models out to market that look like they are suited to compete for the 70+ age bracket.

-scheherazade

Re: Saab Files for Bankruptcy Protection

Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 12:24 am
by complacent
I've always been impressed with the tech that has accompanied the brand... i hope they can keep on innovating.

spark plugs as in cylinder sensors were genius. plz keep it up!

Re: Saab Files for Bankruptcy Protection

Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 11:43 am
by Sabre
The Areo-X is definitely a damn nice car. I wish it would see the light of day :(