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EU Says IP Addresses Are Personal Data

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 8:19 am
by WRXWagon2112
According to an EU regulator, your IP address is private, personal information.

WashingtonPost.com
Article wrote:IP Addresses Are Personal Data, E.U. Regulator Says

By Aoife White
Associated Press
Tuesday, January 22, 2008; Page D01

BRUSSELS -- IP addresses, strings of numbers that identify computers on the Internet, should generally be regarded as personal information, the head of the European Union's group of data privacy regulators said Monday.

Germany's data-protection commissioner, Peter Scharr, leads the E.U. group, which is preparing a report on how well the privacy policies of Internet search engines operated by Google, Yahoo, Microsoft and others comply with E.U. privacy law.

Scharr told a European Parliament hearing on online data protection that when someone is identified by an IP, or Internet protocol, address, "then it has to be regarded as personal data."

His view differs from that of Google, which insists an IP address merely identifies the location of a computer, not who the individual user is. That is true but does not take into consideration that many people regularly use the same computer and IP address.

Scharr acknowledged that IP addresses for a computer may not always be personal or linked to an individual. For example, some computers in Internet cafes or offices are used by several people.

These exceptions have not stopped the emergence of a host of "whois" Internet sites, which allow users to type in an IP address and will then generate a name for the person or company linked to it.

Treating IP addresses as personal information would have implications for how search engines record data.

Google was the first last year to cut the time it stored search information to 18 months. It also reduced the time limit on the cookies that collect information on how people use the Internet from a default of 30 years to an automatic expiration in two years.

A privacy advocate at the nonprofit Electronic Privacy Information Center said it was "absurd" for Google to claim that stripping out the last two figures from the stored IP address made the address impossible to identify by making it one of 256 possible configurations.

"It's one of the things that make computer people giggle," the center's executive director, Marc Rotenberg, said. "The more the companies know about you, the more commercial value is obtained."

Google's global privacy counsel, Peter Fleischer, said Google collects IP addresses to give customers a more accurate service because it knows what part of the world a search result comes from and what language is used -- and that was not enough to identify an individual user.

"If someone taps in 'football,' you get different results in London than in New York," he said.

The way Google stores IP addresses meant that one address forms part of a crowd, giving valuable information on general trends without infringing on an individual's privacy, he said.

Google says it needs to store search queries and gather information on online activity to improve its search results and to provide advertisers with correct billing information that shows that genuine users are clicking on online ads.

Internet "click fraud" can be tracked by showing that the same IP address is jumping repeatedly to the same ad. Advertisers pay for each time a different person views the ad, so dozens of views by the same person can rack up costs without giving the company the publicity it wanted.

Microsoft does not record the IP address that identifies an individual computer when it logs search terms. Its Internet strategy relies on users logging into the Passport network that is linked to its popular Hotmail and Messenger services.

The company's European Internet policy director, Thomas Myrup Kristensen, described the move as part of Microsoft's commitment to privacy. "In terms of the impact on user privacy, complete and irreversible anonymity is the most important point here -- more impactful than whether the data is retained for 13 versus 18 versus 24 months," he said.

Neither of the search engines received a pat on the back from Spain's data protection regulator, Artemi Rallo Lombarte, who criticized them for not trying to make their privacy policies accessible to normal people.

Their privacy policies "could very well be considered virtual or fictional . . . because search engines do not sufficiently emphasize their own privacy policies on their home pages, nor are they accessible to users," he said, describing the policies as "complex and unintelligible to users."
--Alan

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 8:46 am
by complacent
While I'm willing to applaud the effort, I think the practical implementation isn't possible. :(

Kudos for the ruling though! Go IP (property) rights!

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 10:47 am
by Libra Monkee
That makes sense because an IP address is, after all, an address. You wouldn't want any giving away your home address so strangers can visit you for their own private gain. Whether or not they know that it's you who lives there.

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 10:49 am
by WRXWagon2112
What if your ISP assigns IPs dynamically? Would an ISP ever force a re-boot of your modem? Or if you have a power outage, would your ISP assign a new IP address when your modem comes back online?

--Alan

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 11:21 am
by Sabre
I don't see an IP address as personal information at all. The Internet could be compared to a public street. Are the numbers on the side of your building personal data too? Of course not, so why would your IP address? Just like the numbers on the side of an apartment building represent many people, so do IP addresses that are NAT'ed. Every web server you visit records your IP address. People need to get over it. Some stuff in this world is public, other stuff is private. If you put something out in the open, don't expect it to not get noticed or recorded.

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 11:25 am
by complacent
Sabre wrote:I don't see an IP address as personal information at all. The Internet could be compared to a public street. Are the numbers on the side of your building personal data too? Of course not, so why would your IP address? Just like the numbers on the side of an apartment building represent many people, so do IP addresses that are NAT'ed. Every web server you visit records your IP address. People need to get over it. Some stuff in this world is public, other stuff is private. If you put something out in the open, don't expect it to not get noticed or recorded.
QFMFT.

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 12:41 pm
by scheherazade
Filter all IP addresses out of all IP packets.

Let's see how well the infrastructure equipment works after that.

-scheherazade

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 12:57 pm
by Libra Monkee
[Devil's advocate]Well, true. The IP isn't personal data... per se. But just like you home street address it can lead to the discovery of personal info. Where do you think junk mail comes from. Do you remember giving your name and number to Publisher's Clearing House? No? Well if they got it who else might get it? what if they don't want to give me $10,000 but instead nickel and dime me until I have nothing left?[/Devil's advocate]