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Leopard's Firewall "Flawed"
Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 11:22 am
by complacent
More /. goodness found
hmah.
Ok, no biggie for us n3rdz, right?
Btw, If vi-ing or pico-ing an ipfw-based firewall is beyond your comfort level - try
waterroof. It's a pretty decent GUI frontend for teh configz. wewt.
ZOMG INnArWEBZ!!!!!1
Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 10:28 am
by Sabre
After looking at their article... they are making mountains out of mole hills in some areas (not all though). The way the Mac firewall works is by allowing any network program that is started to automatically start servicing requests. So if you start services (like they did in the first part of the article), it will allow them. Windows does the same thing...
Sounds like Apple isn't updating the Mac firewall GUI with the latest rule sets. Easy enough to fix.
Now this part is a different story:
A number of peculiarities emerged in the course of testing. A newly booted MacBook refused time synchronization - only to permit it a few moments later for no apparent reason without any changes to the security settings having been made. Further, it is not clear at what point Mac OS X starts which services, or how it decides which of these should be accessible and which should not.
This really isn't good and I have to wonder what changed. I REALLY wish they had done a "ipfw show" before and after running all of these commands.
You are right though, we (geeks in general) won't have to worry about this, but some of these problems should be addresses for regular home users.
Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 11:36 am
by chicken n waffles
i understood a bit of that, but for the most part,
ps - aapl... flawed software? z0mg NO WAI!!1
Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 3:30 pm
by schvin
ipfw makes baby jesus cry.

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 3:42 pm
by Libra Monkee
I'm just hoping that Leopard has better WPA support because using my wireless on Tiger SUCKS!
Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 3:47 pm
by Phibs
Before I have a seizure, plz change avatar k thx!
Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 3:56 pm
by Libra Monkee
No, I think you deserve a seizure.

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 6:06 pm
by Sabre
Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 10:11 am
by complacent
I was thinking the same! It's not
that bad!
What would yonder security guru (teh schvin, talkin' at ya) recommend if ipfw is makin' teh jeebus cry?
Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 10:50 am
by Sabre
complacent wrote:
I was thinking the same! It's not
that bad!
What would yonder security guru (teh schvin, talkin' at ya) recommend if ipfw is makin' teh jeebus cry?
If anyone says IPChains I will promptly punch them in the gonads... or cuch if need be.

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 2:41 pm
by Libra Monkee
Alright, alright... back to Leopard's flaws. I have to agree with this article in thanking the Mac geeks, er... fools, no...
early adopters (don't hurt me Colin

) for the getting these bugs out of the way now before the rest of us drop our hard-earned duckets on this OS.
Beyond the normal growing pains of adapting to a new OS, and the aforementioned firewall deal, there seems to be no Java 6 support in Leopard which has
developers up in arms.
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Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 10:45 pm
by Mr Kleen
i wish the new macbook pros weren't so damn expensive. i'd like to experiment with the dark side (light side?)

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 10:51 pm
by Phibs
Libra Monkee wrote:Alright, alright... back to Leopard's flaws. I have to agree with this article in thanking the Mac geeks, er... fools, no...
early adopters (don't hurt me Colin

) for the getting these bugs out of the way now before the rest of us drop our hard-earned duckets on this OS.
Beyond the normal growing pains of adapting to a new OS, and the aforementioned firewall deal, there seems to be no Java 6 support in Leopard which has
developers up in arms.
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Congrats!
I believe I had java6 running on mine, but not 100% sure. I will say though for the record, I hate java

Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 3:40 pm
by schvin
Sabre wrote:complacent wrote:
I was thinking the same! It's not
that bad!
What would yonder security guru (teh schvin, talkin' at ya) recommend if ipfw is makin' teh jeebus cry?
If anyone says IPChains I will promptly punch them in the gonads... or cuch if need be.

oh, not a chance

that punching would definitely be deserved!
oh, and pf ftw.
pf (and altq/etc) have been rolled out of openbsd to netbsd and freebsd so far, so i can't imagine it's much of a stretch to get it on the osx. my 2 cents.
Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 4:01 pm
by Sabre
schvin wrote:
oh, not a chance

that punching would definitely be deserved!
oh, and pf ftw.
pf (and altq/etc) have been rolled out of openbsd to netbsd and freebsd so far, so i can't imagine it's much of a stretch to get it on the osx. my 2 cents.
Ok, we can still be friends

PF should be fairly easy to get over to OSX me thinks.
Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 4:10 pm
by schvin
Sabre wrote:schvin wrote:
oh, not a chance

that punching would definitely be deserved!
oh, and pf ftw.
pf (and altq/etc) have been rolled out of openbsd to netbsd and freebsd so far, so i can't imagine it's much of a stretch to get it on the osx. my 2 cents.
Ok, we can still be friends

PF should be fairly easy to get over to OSX me thinks.

+1