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It's the Voyager (sans the Janeway)

Verizon CMO wrote:"We think it'll be the best phone ... this year. It will kill the iPhone,"

Competition, YAY!

Competition is ALWAYS good. I REALLY hope this makes Apple give the US high speed Internet access....

I'll wait until it is out in the wild to form an opinion, but I'm willing to believe that it certainly won't be an "iPhone killer."

But I've been wrong before...

Sabre wrote:Competition is ALWAYS good. I REALLY hope this makes Apple give the US high speed Internet access....

I'm not convinced that Apple is to blame for slow cell data speeds. There's an overall reluctance on the part of the carriers to spend the money needed to improve their infrastructure to 3G levels. On the other hand, the stats that I've read show that most American cell phone users never use the web features of their phones - even at current speeds. So perhaps the carriers have reason to drag their feet?

Then again, most data plans offered by carriers are quite expensive. So maybe it's the high price that keeps Americans from using web features ...

...this could go on and on ...

--Alan

complacent wrote:I'll wait until it is out in the wild to form an opinion, but I'm willing to believe that it certainly won't be an "iPhone killer."

+uno

it's an lg, so that's already 1 strike against it. it certainly will NOT be an iphone killer, especially since vzw is sure to cripple the balls off it.

now if apple hadn't signed an exclusive agreement with at&t...

WRXWagon2112 wrote:

Sabre wrote:
Then again, most data plans offered by carriers are quite expensive. So maybe it's the high price that keeps Americans from using web features ...

I would think that is pretty much it. really slow+really expensive=no one buying it.

I had all teh J0re webzores enabled crap on one of my phones during a trial period and it was so cumbersome and slow to use that I returned the phone and got a simpler phone. My new simpler phone also has the advantage of being tri-mode so it works in the middle of nowhere when my other phone would not.

Ditto on LG sucking and ditto on the iphone being overpriced and not worth it The iphone has great potential but the first revision won't get you there. ( And as a rule of thumb, I don't buy Apple 1.0 products EVER)

Not that CNN is a great source for a tech comparison, but I thought this was interesting (and relevant to the thread)...

Smackdown: Nokia's N95 vs Apple's iPhone

So which to buy? Though both offer excellent features, the N95 is faster and gives you the freedom to roam. But some users might not think that freedom is worth an extra $300. Were it not for the phone's hefty price tag, Nokia just might give Apple a run for its money.

--Alan

WRXWagon2112 wrote:

Sabre wrote:Competition is ALWAYS good. I REALLY hope this makes Apple give the US high speed Internet access....

I'm not convinced that Apple is to blame for slow cell data speeds. There's an overall reluctance on the part of the carriers to spend the money needed to improve their infrastructure to 3G levels.

AT&T has 3G support on a number of their devices in the US, including the Treo 750 and some of the RIM devices = they have the network = either a) AT&T didn't want to stress it with 45,000 new devices or b) Apple didn't think the US cared