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now it has a retractable hard top.

oontz.

i duno how i feel about miatas. my neighbor drives one. they're neat little cars i'll give em that.. but it doesnt have as much oomph as you might expect them to... so im not sure. retractable hardtop looks cool though.

I always loved the miata (the best one yet) and it just got better

only drove it once. perhaps i was just having a bad day haha. damn they ARE tiny on the inside though

if this is to be the only top available, not just an option, then this is the beginning of the end of the Miata/MX-5.

There's a bit of discussion going on about this on the Miata forums. The Miata doesn't have a lot of power and it hasn't needed it because of it's relatively light weight. Adding a power hardtop adds a ton of weight. Some people would love a real coupe, like what was offered overseas, some people like the idea of not needing a hardtop and some people want to go back to the old barndoors' sleek 2,100 lbs. I'd like to see it in action and feel the weight difference before making any decisions on it myself.

Katya4me wrote:There's a bit of discussion going on about this on the Miata forums. The Miata doesn't have a lot of power and it hasn't needed it because of it's relatively light weight. Adding a power hardtop adds a ton of weight. Some people would love a real coupe, like what was offered overseas, some people like the idea of not needing a hardtop and some people want to go back to the old barndoors' sleek 2,100 lbs. I'd like to see it in action and feel the weight difference before making any decisions on it myself.

couldn't have said it better myself

complacent wrote:

Katya4me wrote:There's a bit of discussion going on about this on the Miata forums. The Miata doesn't have a lot of power and it hasn't needed it because of it's relatively light weight. Adding a power hardtop adds a ton of weight. Some people would love a real coupe, like what was offered overseas, some people like the idea of not needing a hardtop and some people want to go back to the old barndoors' sleek 2,100 lbs. I'd like to see it in action and feel the weight difference before making any decisions on it myself.

couldn't have said it better myself

I have mucho respect for Miata's, esp. with FM kits

you guys would love my neighbors miata. ill have to grab pics if i ever see it outside again. he takes driving it very seriously haha. he has "miata" embroidered leather racing gloves, "miata" cabby hat, a "miata" jacket for those colder days.. he generally loves his miata.

even if this convertible hard-top doesn’t ruin the MX-5, it will put in on the slippery slope. next stop, Corvette circa 1981.

that coupe show car that made the rounds was hella-cool. maybe they'll release that one as a consolation to the sporting community?

any 2100 lb car with 300rwhp is NOT to be fucked with. Turbo the little miata and it will run down vipers and the like - with ease.

Keep in mind the car already has:

Perfect 50/50 weight distribution

Dual wishbone four way fully independent suspension

perfect wheelbase

2100 lbs

the body sits low, low drag ce as well.


Properly tuned... from say flyin miata? you have a real beast. period.

complacent wrote:any 2100 lb car with 300rwhp is NOT to be fucked with. Turbo the little miata and it will run down vipers and the like - with ease.

What are you referring to here? The 2100lbs. Miata I was referring to is the original NA 1990 one w/ the 1.6L engine and 115 crank hp, about 90 hp at the wheels. W/ a Greddy kit, that can hit around 170 hp, maybe. A lightened NB 1.8L engine w/ a FMII kit can hit 220hp on stock internals for over 3 years before croaking. 300rwhp is entering overkill power for the Miata, IMHO. Just this past weekend, we were having lots of fun embarassing M3s at a BWM autox.

I never thought the Miata was cool but the retractable hard top is.

complacent wrote:now it has a retractable hard top.

oontz.

colin, we've talked about this before. no more miatas for you. NO! THAT'S A BAD COLIN!

my argument isn't against this MX-5, or with previous Miata generations. I'm saying this will set the MX-5 on the path to the dark side. next thing you know you'll be looking at a competitor to the Eclipse Spyder...