My new headache
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My new headache
I picked up the car Saturday, and dropped it off at my brothers. I still don't know if I am going to just drop a used engine in it for now or build one.
- drwrx
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Re: My new headache
What are your long term plans for the car?
If this is to be high-power, dedicated track-day car than a purpose built EJ257 is the way to go.
If this is going to be a daily-driven semi-project car with some occasional track days in it's future, than a EJ205 with some stronger internals is more than adequate. An EJ205 with the right turbo and injectors can easily run 300 whp for years w/o issue.
The only real advantage of the EJ257 (or EJ255) is AVCS and displacement. If you really love torque, than this is your option.
That said, I never felt I was underpowered in my 18G EJ205 wagon.
If this is to be high-power, dedicated track-day car than a purpose built EJ257 is the way to go.
If this is going to be a daily-driven semi-project car with some occasional track days in it's future, than a EJ205 with some stronger internals is more than adequate. An EJ205 with the right turbo and injectors can easily run 300 whp for years w/o issue.
The only real advantage of the EJ257 (or EJ255) is AVCS and displacement. If you really love torque, than this is your option.
That said, I never felt I was underpowered in my 18G EJ205 wagon.
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Re: My new headache
I really just want something nice to drive. I have found some used engines for 2k. So I may go that route for now. What's involved in the ej25 swap? I don't want to go to crazy like my Talon, that car is not a streetable car and just sits.
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Re: My new headache
The EJ257 (or 255) bolts up just fine w/ no issues.
You would need an applicable ECU (STi / Legacy GT / Forester XT) and the wiring harness to go with it.
You can use a 257 or a 255 block with 205 heads and still use the stock WRX ECU. A tune would be required, but I suspect you will be adding that anyhow.
There are a number of threads available on NASIOC in the Engine Builds section that will give you significantly more detail.
If you do go 257 or 255 block, you will need to have some head work done (but not much).
You would need an applicable ECU (STi / Legacy GT / Forester XT) and the wiring harness to go with it.
You can use a 257 or a 255 block with 205 heads and still use the stock WRX ECU. A tune would be required, but I suspect you will be adding that anyhow.
There are a number of threads available on NASIOC in the Engine Builds section that will give you significantly more detail.
If you do go 257 or 255 block, you will need to have some head work done (but not much).
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Re: My new headache
Nice to drive??? How about the talon (because race car)...
Have turbo, will spool.
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Re: My new headache
Alex I have not even started to work on the car yet. Its just sitting at my brothers waiting its turn in the garage. Gotta get the GSX done first.
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Re: My new headache
Car is in the garage
I am thinking of doing the exhaust and injectors while the engine is out. Maybe a turbo also.
I am thinking of doing the exhaust and injectors while the engine is out. Maybe a turbo also.
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Re: My new headache
The injectors will certainly be much easier with the engine out. As will the up-pipe.
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Re: My new headache
You picked your engine yet?
Patience is the ability to idle your motor when you feel like stripping your gears
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Re: My new headache
I am thinking of just getting a used engine for now to get the car running. And then building a 207.
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Re: My new headache
I got the engine in the car. Only took me 2 years Hope to start it up this weekend
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Re: My new headache
:highfive!!:
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2 years and will be a lifetime of enjoyment
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Good choice putting $4,000 rims on your 1990 Honda Civic. That's like Betty White going out and getting her tits done.
92.5% Stock 04 STI
Good choice putting $4,000 rims on your 1990 Honda Civic. That's like Betty White going out and getting her tits done.
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Re: My new headache
Let me know if you want me to stand by with a fire extinguisher and/or beer.
Patience is the ability to idle your motor when you feel like stripping your gears
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Re: My new headache
So what route did you go; 205, 207, 255, 257?
What turbo set-up; Stock, bigger, MUCH bigger?
Details, man!
What turbo set-up; Stock, bigger, MUCH bigger?
Details, man!
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Re: My new headache
Picked up a complete used engine. For now it's all stock.
Got the car started today. Car started and ran for about 2 mins then stalled. Would start and stall. Acted like it was out of gas. Fuel gauge showed full. But didn't know if it was right so we put gas in it. Tank was full. After checking everything found a paper towel stuffed in the intake tube in front if the mass airflow sensor. Got the car started Had a rough idle and sputtering under load. Unhooked the mass airflow. Ran great.
Zak this car has made me drink a lot. There where a few times that if it caught fire I would let it burn.
Got the car started today. Car started and ran for about 2 mins then stalled. Would start and stall. Acted like it was out of gas. Fuel gauge showed full. But didn't know if it was right so we put gas in it. Tank was full. After checking everything found a paper towel stuffed in the intake tube in front if the mass airflow sensor. Got the car started Had a rough idle and sputtering under load. Unhooked the mass airflow. Ran great.
Zak this car has made me drink a lot. There where a few times that if it caught fire I would let it burn.
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Re: My new headache
Black 95 TSI wrote: There where a few times that if it caught fire I would let it burn.
Laughing with you not at you.
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Mr Kleen wrote:Black 95 TSI wrote: There where a few times that if it caught fire I would let it burn.
Laughing with you not at you.
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Re: My new headache
I swing through Springfield Sunday and Tuesdays for hockey games when I am in town.
Let me know if you ever need another head to bang against things to get them to work.
Let me know if you ever need another head to bang against things to get them to work.
Patience is the ability to idle your motor when you feel like stripping your gears
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Bad MAF... pick up one used, new ones are redunkulus... RockAuto if you are going new though.
Sabre (Julian)
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Good choice putting $4,000 rims on your 1990 Honda Civic. That's like Betty White going out and getting her tits done.
92.5% Stock 04 STI
Good choice putting $4,000 rims on your 1990 Honda Civic. That's like Betty White going out and getting her tits done.
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Re: My new headache
Julian ya I have been looking for a used one. My brother has found a few. On eBay
Zak. I will let you know when I get the car up here. Right now it's at my brothers house sitting o the lift still
Zak. I will let you know when I get the car up here. Right now it's at my brothers house sitting o the lift still
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Re: My new headache
I have a spare MAF that you can use for testing and such. I do like to keep it around of things go in the southerly direction.
Patience is the ability to idle your motor when you feel like stripping your gears
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Re: My new headache
zaxrex wrote:I have a spare MAF that you can use for testing and such. I do like to keep it around of things go in the southerly direction.
Ya if you don't mind. Maybe at the next meet I can get it from ya.
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Re: My new headache
Sure
Patience is the ability to idle your motor when you feel like stripping your gears