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Re: going stage one soon

Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 10:44 am
by zaxrex
I can return the cable to you at the next meet.
I don't understand the boost functionality with the swapped ECU. Even with Darrin's stand alone super smart boost controller targeted for 18, I still only see ~5.

Re: going stage one soon

Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 11:36 am
by Sabre
Darrin's cable won't work since he has a 2011 :( I sent my cable (Tactrix 2.0) off to Colin so he could do some emissions tuning.

I don't understand the boost problem either :(

Re: going stage one soon

Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 11:53 am
by FreddyG
I did a little research on the problem you have and it seems as if some people somehow end up having the restrictor pill that suppose to be in line 1 end up in line 3 in this diagram
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they experience the exact same symptoms you're having, and once they free up that restrictor pill and put it back in line 1 then they can get target boost again

Re: going stage one soon

Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 5:50 pm
by zaxrex
Thanks for pulling the effort and research on that man. I appreciate it.
I should have been more clear in my issues, but didn't want to hijack your thread.
So let me put my pirate hat on and continue and load up the musket.
I bought a pre-loved and modified wrx wagon that has a stand alone fuzzy logic boost controller that will do anything physically possible to make sure you hit 18 PSI or die trying. Provides for rock steady boost level, and awesome spool-up.
Day two of ownership and things go all wiggy. Replace MAF, both O2, spark plugs... all to no avail.
Found that a custom map had been burnt into the ECU in non-standard location. This prevented the use of RomRaider or other open source tuning from accessing the current map or being able to flash anything else on it.
When you are like me and have extra ECU's lying around, I got my opensource tuning learn on with the help of Dr.WRX and Sabre and swapped the ECU for the one that we could opensource.
That swapped ECU is like some super zombie that somehow overrides the boost controller and won't even run wastegate pressure.

So, long story short, yes, the symptoms do match what can happen with a turbo swap and the restrictor not going in. In my case, the actual hardware never changes, same turbo, same lines and everything. Swapping ECU's makes my wagon sad.

Re: going stage one soon

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 1:45 am
by FreddyG
thats crazy, so are you going to try and get a new ecu?

Re: going stage one soon

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 2:24 am
by zaxrex
Already did. That one we were able to flash. But when swapped in, it has no boost. Even though the stand alone controller should not give a flying leap about what ecu is in there or what it is set for.

Re: going stage one soon

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 9:36 am
by drwrx
So before, the boost would climb, but you would get bucking and "knock like" flashes anywhere above 8psi or so.
Now you can't even get 5psi?
I hate to say it, but I'm beginning to think that perhaps the turbo needs to be pulled and inspected.
It would seem an unlikely culprit, but it appears to be the next logical link in the chain.
You pulled the TMIC, and after much work, checked that box.
o2 sensors? Check!
MAF? Check!
Plugs? Check!
That leaves:
Solenoid?
Turbo?
Maybe compression?

Re: going stage one soon

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 12:02 am
by zaxrex
Nah, the boost on the original ECU goes just fine, but with the bucking.
Change ECUs and then get no boost, even though the HKS is on.

I just swapped out the Blue's boost solenoid with Julian's ECBS and am all happy again. Let me use that on the wagon and see if that plays a part.
Else, next stop; turboville.

Re: going stage one soon

Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 1:56 pm
by FreddyG
anyone wanna meet this weekend to help :), all i need to do is tune and install the cai.

Re: going stage one soon

Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 2:26 pm
by zaxrex
I'm out of town, but another time I'd be there with you.

Re: going stage one soon

Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 2:27 pm
by Sabre
Sure :) You close to Springfield?

Re: going stage one soon

Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 5:05 pm
by FreddyG
yea im at andrews so like 20 minutes away

Re: going stage one soon

Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 10:00 pm
by Sabre
We'll figure out a time :) You get the Tactrix cable yet?

Re: going stage one soon

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 7:37 am
by FreddyG
Getting it after work today :), and it doesn't matter to me I'm off weekends so whatever works best for you

Re: going stage one soon

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 5:45 pm
by FreddyG
ooo pretty colors haha :) i want to flash it tonight so bad haha but i wanna make sure i do it right

Re: going stage one soon

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 10:02 am
by zaxrex
Get started by making a copy of your current image. Burn this to a disk and put a copy on-line. This is your base that you start everything from. Making a copy of the image is a good start to feeling comfortable with the interface. Start looking at the variables of the map, just to get familiar...
Then you can get into tuning.

Re: going stage one soon

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 10:48 am
by FreddyG
I dont think ill ever tune the car, just flash over the tune i purchased, but I'm still waiting for that screw to show up so I can feel a little more safe

Re: going stage one soon

Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 2:30 pm
by FreddyG
i be stage one now, thanks to julian!!!

Re: going stage one soon

Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 6:14 pm
by Sabre
Very happy to help out :)