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Don't go to WIKILEAKS if you have a clearance.

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 11:31 am
by Raven
Apparently it's a security uh-oh, just thought I'd spread the word to others. And I don't mean "at work," I mean "at all."

Re: Don't go to WIKILEAKS if you have a clearance.

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 11:40 am
by PGT
:lol: someone's site get :owned: ??? That's the only way it would matter (i.e. the man could log visiting IP's and have someway to link it back to you).

And, in other news....duh. :banana2:

Re: Don't go to WIKILEAKS if you have a clearance.

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 2:14 pm
by chicken n waffles
smells like paranoia self-destroya in here...

i've read it from work before. :)

Re: Don't go to WIKILEAKS if you have a clearance.

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 2:49 pm
by Raven
It's technically a security violation. Just saying.

Re: Don't go to WIKILEAKS if you have a clearance.

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 3:07 pm
by PGT
Raven wrote:It's technically a security violation. Just saying.
got a link? the only brief we've seen from DNI is about the Washington Post series "Classified America", in case we started getting calls asking for comment.

Re: Don't go to WIKILEAKS if you have a clearance.

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 3:28 pm
by complacent
chicken n waffles wrote:smells like paranoia self-destroya in here...

i've read it from work before. :)
PGT wrote:
got a link? the only brief we've seen from DNI is about the Washington Post series "Classified America", in case we started getting calls asking for comment.


if you go to the iase site, there's a link under "important announcements" and it is from the dod cio. you need pki to get there, but it does say one is not to go to wikileaks, period. raven is correct.

Re: Don't go to WIKILEAKS if you have a clearance.

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 3:38 pm
by PGT
any way you can screenshot or post it? I'd like to fwd to our FSO

Re: Don't go to WIKILEAKS if you have a clearance.

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 3:55 pm
by complacent
can you PM me a .mil addy? or i can send you mine.

Re: Don't go to WIKILEAKS if you have a clearance.

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 4:01 pm
by PGT
I don't have one, actually. We don't do butts-in-seats.

in other news, this dude rocks http://twitter.com/th3j35t3r#

Re: Don't go to WIKILEAKS if you have a clearance.

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 4:12 pm
by PGT
BTW, here's a video from the supposed CEH that took wikileaks down, showing him dropping someone else's box

https://www.infosecisland.com/blogview/ ... lity-.html

Re: Don't go to WIKILEAKS if you have a clearance.

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 5:05 pm
by complacent
PGT wrote:I don't have one, actually. We don't do butts-in-seats.
doh. hate to be a wiener, but if disa deems it worth hiding behind cac authentication, i prolly shouldn't post it.

Re: Don't go to WIKILEAKS if you have a clearance.

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 5:21 pm
by missvenezuela85
^ Good to know..

Re: Don't go to WIKILEAKS if you have a clearance.

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 7:11 pm
by PGT
complacent wrote:
PGT wrote:I don't have one, actually. We don't do butts-in-seats.
doh. hate to be a wiener, but if disa deems it worth hiding behind cac authentication, i prolly shouldn't post it.
that's ok. I'll ping the FSO anyways and have them get the word out

Re: Don't go to WIKILEAKS if you have a clearance.

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 7:56 pm
by Mr Kleen
we've been directed to remove the DVD burners from all of our SIPR machines. :lol:

we were also [verbally] told not to visit the WikiLeaks site at any time, but I haven't seen the written order yet.

Re: Don't go to WIKILEAKS if you have a clearance.

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 10:00 pm
by hotsam
We were told that visiting the site will most likely cost you your clearance.

Re: Don't go to WIKILEAKS if you have a clearance.

Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 7:51 am
by drwrx
Same here, nothing written, but a clear verbal warning has been issued.

Re: Don't go to WIKILEAKS if you have a clearance.

Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 7:58 am
by chicken n waffles
meh. i guess it's a good thing that i'm not directly on a DoD network.

Re: Don't go to WIKILEAKS if you have a clearance.

Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 8:45 am
by PGT
got a note back from the FSO that DSS said the same thing in a meeting yesterday but refused to put it in writing.








:wtf:

guess they know that this isn't really kosher to do but are instilling fear in the community to try and clamp down (uhh, asleep at the wheel guys?).

OMB released a memo this week. http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default ... m11-06.pdf
M-11-06 MEMORANDUM FOR THE HEADS OF EXECUTIVE DEPARTMENTS AND AGENCIES
FROM: Jacob J. Lew
Director

SUBJECT: WikiLeaks - Mishandling of Classified Information

Our national defense requires that sensitive information be maintained in confidence to protect our citizens, our democratic institutions, and our homeland. Protecting information critical to our nation’s security is the responsibility of each individual who is granted access to classified information. Any unauthorized disclosure of classified information is a violation of our law and compromises our national security.

The recent irresponsible disclosure by WikiLeaks has resulted in significant damage to our national security. Any failure by agencies to safeguard classified information pursuant to relevant laws, including but not limited to Executive Order 13526, Classified National Security Information (December 29, 2009), is unacceptable and will not be tolerated.

Please note the following immediate instructions:
• Each department or agency that handles classified information shall establish a security assessment team consisting of counterintelligence, security, and information assurance experts to review the agency’s implementation of procedures for safeguarding classified information against improper disclosures. Such review should include (without limitation) evaluation of the agency’s configuration of classified government systems to ensure that users do not have broader access than is necessary to do their jobs effectively, as well as implementation of restrictions on usage of, and removable media capabilities from, classified government computer networks.
• The Office of Management and Budget, the Information Security Oversight Office, and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence will stand up processes to evaluate, and to assist agencies in their review of, security practices with respect to the protection of classified information.

The recent irresponsible disclosure by WikiLeaks has resulted in significant damage to our national security.

Re: Don't go to WIKILEAKS if you have a clearance.

Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 10:18 am
by complacent
hotsam wrote:We were told that visiting the site will most likely cost you your clearance.
!!! holy :censor: !!!
PGT wrote:got a note back from the FSO that DSS said the same thing in a meeting yesterday but refused to put it in writing.

:wtf:

guess they know that this isn't really kosher to do but are instilling fear in the community to try and clamp down (uhh, asleep at the wheel guys?).
well thank fsm the processes and procedures are consistent! :rolllaugh: :rolllaugh:

Re: Don't go to WIKILEAKS if you have a clearance.

Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 11:17 am
by Raven
complacent wrote:
hotsam wrote:We were told that visiting the site will most likely cost you your clearance.
!!! holy :censor: !!!
I was told that visiting it would constitute a security violation and would likely result in termination.

Re: Don't go to WIKILEAKS if you have a clearance.

Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 4:08 pm
by Sabre
Ya, it's pretty much a say good bye to your job in certain communities... Unless you have been told explicitly to work on it...

Re: Don't go to WIKILEAKS if you have a clearance.

Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 4:33 pm
by thermatico
You don't have to go to WikiLeaks to get an idea of what was in the memo's. The New York Times has been reporting on it pretty regularly and hitting (and hitting what I assume are) the high points.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/worl ... ts.html?hp

Update...
Comments from Defense Secretary Gates
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2010 ... otherwise/

Re: Don't go to WIKILEAKS if you have a clearance.

Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 10:51 am
by Mr Kleen
it's totally a political move, not really motivated by any security issue. but they call the shots for clearance holders...

Re: Don't go to WIKILEAKS if you have a clearance.

Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 6:43 am
by Mr Kleen
Will reading WikiLeaks cost students jobs with the federal government?
(CNN) -- U.S. agencies have warned some employees that reading the classified State Department documents released by WikiLeaks puts them at risk of losing their jobs. But what about students considering jobs with the federal government? Do they jeopardize their chances by reading WikiLeaks?

It's a gray area, said law professors and national security experts who spoke with CNN. The topic has been debated intensely in the past week in legal and academic circles, ever since several U.S. universities sent e-mails to students with warnings about reading leaked documents.

They say students ought to be mindful of their future careers when commenting on or distributing the documents online -- especially those planning to seek jobs in national security or the intelligence community, which require a security clearance.

"The security clearance asks whether or not you're a risk when it comes to sensitive material. This could be one indicator that, when taken together with others, creates a broader pattern that might suggest you're not a person to be hired," said Pepperdine University law professor Gregory McNeal, who specializes in national security law.

"They may very well take into account your opinion, as a job candidate, whether or not you think WikiLeaks is a good thing or bad thing for the country," he said. "It's a small issue, but one to approach with caution if I were a student seeking a job in the national security field."

E-mails went out last week to students at several schools, including Boston University's School of Law, Georgetown University's School of Foreign Service and Columbia University's School of International and Public Affairs, cautioning students against commenting on or posting links to the documents on social media sites such as Facebook or Twitter.

Each message came from the schools' offices of career services, claiming to be sent at the recommendation of an alumnus.

Re: Don't go to WIKILEAKS if you have a clearance.

Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 7:17 am
by chicken n waffles
Mr Kleen wrote:it's totally a political move, not really motivated by any security issue. but they call the shots for clearance holders...
exactly