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Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 8:27 am
by Mr Kleen
on the "Subaru dropping the WRX" rumor:
Autocar doesn't cite its source for this information, and it seems highly unlikely to us...
seems highly unlikely to me as well. maybe they're going to drop the WRX name, but not the configuration.
Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 10:39 am
by Sabre
Ya, I can't see them dropping the WRX either. Everything is a rumor till we see what actually hits the dealers (physically, none of the "this dealer told me this crap either)
Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 2:12 pm
by Cereb Daithi
i have a feeling that if it's true that they are dropping the WRX... they will be introducing a new mid-level turbo-charged version.. i dont think subaru could so easily kill their flagship to the younger generations.
Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 11:18 am
by sirwilliam
Not sure if these have been posted already of the new '08 Impreza:

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 11:30 am
by Cereb Daithi
those rims look slightly familiar....

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 11:34 am
by sirwilliam
Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 11:37 am
by Libra Monkee
I'm liking that front end a lot better but why is it a wagon?
Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 12:01 pm
by sirwilliam
Libra Monkee wrote:I'm liking that front end a lot better but why is it a wagon?
It's not a wagon, it's a hatchback

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 12:53 pm
by sirwilliam
ARTICLE LINK
2008 Subaru Impreza Shows a New Face
Date posted: 02-06-2007
TOKYO — The 2008 Subaru Impreza will feature a new look next year, as we've seen in pictures leaked from Japan.
The controversial propeller-style motif developed for the current generation of Subaru vehicles under the leadership of former Subaru Design Director Andreas Zapatinas has been exchanged for the new look. As illustrations of the 2008 Subaru Impreza confirm, the new-look grille is broad and narrow, and it's complemented by upswept headlights.
Equally noteworthy is the availability of a new hatchback configuration. Hatchbacks are experiencing a comeback in coolness as seen in the trend-setting Audi A3 and Mazda 3. We've learned the 2008 Subaru Impreza hatchback is 5.1 inches shorter, 2 inches wider and virtually the same height as the current sedan. Entry-level versions will weigh in at about 3,086 pounds.
The 2008 Subaru Impreza WRX STI will be offered only as a hatchback, as we've already seen in the 2007 Subaru factory rally car. There's a strong possibility the car will feature a new multilink rear suspension. It will get a reworked version of the current intercooled and turbocharged DOHC 2.0-liter flat-4 engine, expected to produce 300 horsepower and 318 pound-feet of torque.
Subaru's engineers have improved the engine's performance by enhancing engine torque at low and midrange rpm, and we expect some tweaks in the DCCD (Driver's Control Center Differential). A six-speed manual transmission will continue to be used.
We expect full details to be disclosed at the New York auto show.
What this means to you: With the introduction of the 2008 Subaru Impreza WRX STI and 2008 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution X, interest in hot-rod rally racers will be stronger than ever next year.
It looks like we'll see a scoop that's integrated into the hood, a Mazda-eque hatch design, and gobs of torque!
Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 12:58 pm
by complacent
It will get a reworked version of the current intercooled and turbocharged DOHC 2.0-liter flat-4 engine, expected to produce 300 horsepower and 431 pound-feet of torque.
There is man-batter all over that torque number.

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 1:22 pm
by sirwilliam
complacent wrote:It will get a reworked version of the current intercooled and turbocharged DOHC 2.0-liter flat-4 engine, expected to produce 300 horsepower and 431 pound-feet of torque.
There is man-batter all over that torque number.

Yes sir! Me lovey the torquey!
Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 1:28 pm
by Mr Kleen
those numbers are for the JDM 2.0 STi, right?
they switching the USDM to 2.0?
Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 1:43 pm
by WRXWagon2112
sirwilliam wrote:
Not that I've been a big fan of the STi wing ... but it looks even worse on a hatchback than on a regular trunk.
--Alan
Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 1:51 pm
by sirwilliam
Mr Kleen wrote:those numbers are for the JDM 2.0 STi, right?
they switching the USDM to 2.0?
No, that is for the japan version ours will have basically same numbers but 2.5L engine. Also, I quoted someone who made a typo on the torque. Torque is only 318ft/lbs.

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 2:02 pm
by complacent
sirwilliam wrote:...I quoted someone who made a typo on the torque. Torque is only 318ft/lbs.


tease...
Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 2:51 pm
by sirwilliam
sirwilliam wrote:Mr Kleen wrote:those numbers are for the JDM 2.0 STi, right?
they switching the USDM to 2.0?
No, that is for the japan version ours will have basically same numbers but 2.5L engine. Also, I quoted someone who made a typo on the torque. Torque is only 318ft/lbs.

Actually, I quoted somebody that copy and pasted from the article which was wrong and then got changed on the website.
Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 4:10 pm
by snaab
sirwilliam wrote:
It looks like we'll see a scoop that's integrated into the hood, a Mazda-eque hatch design, and gobs of torque!
Forget the hatch (which I like), the entire front end is reminiscent of a 90's Protege.
I am pleased though, and the front end can easily have added things to make it look different.
Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 5:01 pm
by chicken n waffles
say what you want about the 06/07, but that 08 looks hideous.
Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 7:33 pm
by thermobox
Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 7:57 pm
by Libra Monkee
sirwilliam wrote:Libra Monkee wrote:I'm liking that front end a lot better but why is it a wagon?
It's not a wagon, it's a hatchback

Hatchback, liftback, wagon, whatever they should've stopped after the hood.
Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 8:24 pm
by sirwilliam
After a while you will get used to the new design and like it...just like the '06-'07.
Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 9:38 pm
by GaToR
Dual exhaust!

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 2:12 am
by snaab
While we're on the topic, is there a significant and historical difference between a hatchback and a wagon, or is it just a name thing?
Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 2:23 am
by Cereb Daithi
to me i've always classified a wagon as a sedan with an addition..
look at the impreza wagons.. its like the sedan with a bubble on top of the c-pillar.... whereas hatchbacks to me have always been more of a look thing rather than a "cargo capactiy" thing.. however.. certain "hatchbacks" seem to disprove my theories... i have no clue.
Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 7:26 am
by GaToR
Cereb Daithi wrote:to me i've always classified a wagon as a sedan with an addition..
look at the impreza wagons.. its like the sedan with a bubble on top of the c-pillar.... whereas hatchbacks to me have always been more of a look thing rather than a "cargo capactiy" thing..
Wikipedia seems to agree with you:
Hatchback vehicles are functionally similar to station wagons (which are intended to carry large volumes), but distinguished by a smaller load area. Some vehicles achieve this by having little car length behind the C-Pillar and thus no room for a side window over the load area.