sabre wrote:Sunday afternoon I cold probably help out Smile I need to get to work on my turbo as well...
That's sounds cool! I'll give a call sometime this weekend to let you know if and when I'm coming.
WRXWagon2112 wrote:If you're going to install a downpipe, I would highly recommend you first consider some heat-management solutions (if you haven't already). That downpipe can get quite hot - and in the right conditions, it can start to affect other parts in the engine bay (it happened to me so I know of what I speak).
Both Mr Kleen and myself used an exhaust header wrap to keep the heat in. You can also use sprays to keep the heat down. Whatever option you choose, you'll want to take action prior to installing the pipe (duh!).
--Alan
It gets that hot?!?! RLY?! Crap! Alright I'll try to find some heat management before this weekend.
Mr Kleen wrote:or wrap it and then coat it with Black Satin. I love wrappin' so let me know if you want to do it for you. seriously.
Would both be neceassary? Wait... let me rephrase that. Would there be any difference in doing both as opposed to doing one the other?
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Libra Monkee wrote:Would both be neceassary? Wait... let me rephrase that. Would there be any difference in doing both as opposed to doing one the other?
Um ... that I can't answer. I can say that I ended up burning a hole through one of my axel boots due to the heat coming off the downpipe. That ended up spraying axel grease around a little.
So the lesson is - wrap your downpipe. Or spray it. Or both. Just do something.
sabre wrote:Sunday afternoon I cold probably help out Smile I need to get to work on my turbo as well...
That's sounds cool! I'll give a call sometime this weekend to let you know if and when I'm coming.
WRXWagon2112 wrote:If you're going to install a downpipe, I would highly recommend you first consider some heat-management solutions (if you haven't already). That downpipe can get quite hot - and in the right conditions, it can start to affect other parts in the engine bay (it happened to me so I know of what I speak).
Both Mr Kleen and myself used an exhaust header wrap to keep the heat in. You can also use sprays to keep the heat down. Whatever option you choose, you'll want to take action prior to installing the pipe (duh!).
--Alan
It gets that hot?!?! RLY?! Crap! Alright I'll try to find some heat management before this weekend.
Mr Kleen wrote:or wrap it and then coat it with Black Satin. I love wrappin' so let me know if you want to do it for you. seriously.
Would both be neceassary? Wait... let me rephrase that. Would there be any difference in doing both as opposed to doing one the other?
I don't know anybody that has done both wrap and black satin. It is usually either wrap w/ spray or black satin coat it. Not sure how well the black satin would coat/stick w/ the wrap but if it did it would be a pretty killer heat barrier.
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Thermo-Tec sells a spray that you use to coat the wrap after it's on to protect it. if I had known about that stuff before I installed the DP I would have used it. but that's just me. last time I was under the car, the wrap looked like it's in good shape. but then again, I only drive my car 2 days a week.
Both Zak and I's wrap deteriorated over time, but maybe it was just us doing a bad job (actually, mine came wrapped from Matt, woot
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Good choice putting $4,000 rims on your 1990 Honda Civic. That's like Betty White going out and getting her tits done.
I wrapped mine before installing it this past Monday. I couldnt find the spray coating for the the wrap at the 3 stores I checked out though. Maybe I just have girlie man hands (my job requires them afterall) but I got a few splinter/sliver/thread things from wrapping the pipe so maybe gloves are a good idea.
I'd recommend gloves, a drop cloth to save your floor / carpet from the "lint" and, if you're really concerned about it, a simple mask to keep the fibers out of your lungs.
And don't wear your Sunday best clothes. The little fibers get everywhere.
Okay I found that Speed Unlimited has both kinds of heat shields (wrap and silicone spray) by DEI(?!) and for not very much. So if I feel like braving my way into *ugh* Maryland I may stop there after work.
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Alright, NOW I think I have everything I need... except knowledge. So is anyone available, (next weekend maybe?), to help me get this installed. The roommates are starting to complain about the garage space. As per Will's suggestion I got the black satin and I'll be applying that to the downpipe between now and then.
So all I should need is to make sure I have all the tools, an extra pair of hands, and somebody who has a better idea of they're doing than I do.
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When are you trying to do this? I should be free for some of this weekend. Have you already wrapped your downpipe? That is an up-front must. It will take some time.
Also, if you can, put the car up on rams the night before and coat all your bolts to be removed with liquid wrench or pb blaster. It will make the removal go much faster.
Do you have all the gaskets you need for the install? For both the downpipe to turbo (you can probably re-use the factory one) and the downpie to catback?
Where are you goign to be doing the work? If you need space, I have a carport you could use. If you have a place, where is it and what time do you want to get started?
^^^ What he said. If you don't get it done this weekend, I have next friday off and can help you at my place all day
Before applying the black satin, rough up the metal with some sandpaper (and make sure it's nice and clean afterward!) That will help the black satin stick better
Sabre (Julian) 92.5% Stock 04 STI
Good choice putting $4,000 rims on your 1990 Honda Civic. That's like Betty White going out and getting her tits done.
Julian: I could come over Friday but I don't get off work until 5:00. However I work right by Hayfield & Telegraph so it only takes me about 15-20 mins to get home. Would that be alright?
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That might be ok Get with me later in the week and I'll have a better idea!
Sabre (Julian) 92.5% Stock 04 STI
Good choice putting $4,000 rims on your 1990 Honda Civic. That's like Betty White going out and getting her tits done.
A better idea?! Hmm... that could either be very very good or very very bad. Anyhow, I applied the satin tonight (after more crappy luck but I won't get into that now). It's cool, it looks like I painted it, and I'm tired. Good night.
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drwrx wrote:It wouldn't be a bad idea to bake that thing before the install, if possible.
If it's small enough to fit in your oven just cook for 1/2 hour at 450.
you might want to open all the windows in the house and disable the smoke alarm first...
drwrx wrote:It wouldn't be a bad idea to bake that thing before the install, if possible.
If it's small enough to fit in your oven just cook for 1/2 hour at 450.
Eh, it's too big for the oven. I do have a blow torch though!
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drwrx wrote:In a word, NO! It can combust if exposed to a direct flame!
You don't really need to cure it before hand, it just makes the stuff adhere better when your trying to install it.
I was being facetious. I'm not going to take an open flame to a metal pipe covered in a flammable substance.
Anyhow today, obviously, isn't a good day to do the install with work and the abhorrent weather (that's fun to drive in BTW). So I was hoping to take CnW the complacent one up on their offer to lend me a hand on Sunday. Does this offer still stand or am I S.O.L. and J.W.F.?
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