Larger TMIC

Post by **Sabre** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 1:28 pm

I have people in town this weekend

I'll see if there is a chance I could help with the injectors though. Just let me know the time you all want to do it and I'll try my best.

drwrx · Post by **drwrx** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 1:40 pm

When and Where will have to be answered by Phibs.

Mr Kleen · Post by **Mr Kleen** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 2:14 pm

I'm booked every weekend until December.

Phibs · Post by **Phibs** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 2:31 pm

Doesn't matter where to me, your place might be better w/ the carport for shelter? When, early Saturday is probably best as you said, since the wrench time is unknown. Maybe Zak is available?

Phibs · Post by **Phibs** » Thu Nov 01, 2007 9:54 am

See next msg.

Phibs · Post by **Phibs** » Thu Nov 01, 2007 3:15 pm

Does anyone have an EGT probe for tuning purposes? I remember
Darrin mentioning he had a Wideband O2 which would be useful as well. I found someone on NASIOC that NHat from the MAIC lunch recommended who is willing to help out and tune the car since he will be doing the same mods to his vehicle soon. He has tuned plenty of stage 2 STIs and WRXs in the past so seems like a good deal.

Phibs · Post by **Phibs** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 11:22 am

For anyone wanting to watch/help we should be starting around 9am at Darrin's house this Saturday.

The mod list:

SSA TMIC
Walbro fuel pump
850cc PE Injectors
FP TD06-20G Turbo
+ 1 Nice tuner guy

I'd ask Darrin first but I assume all are welcome

drwrx · Post by **drwrx** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 11:34 am

Indeed, anyone who wants to lend a hand please do.
We're going to need all the help we can get.
The injectors and Fuel-pump worry me the most as I've never done STi injectors before and it's been years since I did a fuel pump.

Post by **ElZorro** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 11:58 am

Would love to help but I'm booked until almost 3 and possibly after...

Post by **complacent** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 12:02 pm

Yea, timing definitely stinks. I certainly can't make any promises.

Phibs · Post by **Phibs** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 3:03 pm

hehe sorry! I've been waiting months b/c of gruppe-s! I am sure we'll be utilizing all of the daylight tomorrow

Phibs · Post by **Phibs** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 9:20 pm

Install went relatively well. Need a T adapter for the vacuum lines and a boost controller. Oh yeah, and a tune. Other than that, she runs.

Darrin, what boost controller did you say to go with?

http://fastwrx.com/prbocoso.html ?

Also what BOV would be ideal for my setup? Stock?

Mr Kleen · Post by **Mr Kleen** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 10:42 pm

congrats!

Phibs · Post by **Phibs** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 10:48 pm

^^ Not until it's tuned and going vroom vroom

With the map I have on it now it feels like a Civic EX.

Also one more thing to note, I smell exhaust gas IN the engine bay and hear sput sput sput sput sput... I wonder if we did not tighten enough on the DP or another area, thoughts Dr?

drwrx · Post by **drwrx** » Sun Nov 04, 2007 1:57 pm

Phibs wrote:http://fastwrx.com/prbocoso.html ?

Also what BOV would be ideal for my setup? Stock?

That's not "really" a boost controller it is just a better boost control solenoid than the stock. And yes, that's the one to get, becuase it is plug and play, no need to rewire! The GM is cheaper, but you have to do some modifications for it to work.

Stick with the Stock BOV unless it won't hold your target boost. Most will hold to 23psi or so. That is more than enough for a 20G on pump gas. You would not likely run more than that, even on race gas.

Phibs · Post by **Phibs** » Sun Nov 04, 2007 6:58 pm

Tightened up everything, removed kink from turbo <-> IC hose and still smell exhaust gas in the engine bay, particularly on the turbo side. What the heck could it be? I'm hoping ptuning can take me tomorrow and tune it up as well

Did a few logs too:

http://www.bsd-unix.net/~seitz/enginuity/

drwrx · Post by **drwrx** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 8:12 am

There is an easy way to check for exhaust leaks.

Take a rag and cover over your exhaust tip, trying to stop all exiting exhaust. Have a bunch of people stand around the car, (one up front at the turbo, one close to the mid-pipe) and listen for pff pff pff. Also if when you cover over the tail pipe the car's idle drops significantly (like it is almost going to stall) you deffinately don't have an exhaust leak.

Also, you just put on a new turbo, TMIC and injectors (with some coolant and oil in your engine bay ta boot) so there will be some curing time, during which you will get some "burning off" smell. Your car is also running "very rich" which may also account for some, if not all of the smell. I didn't notice anything more that what I consider normal for this kind of swap. Actually it was less than what I expected. It took about a week and a half before the FXT was burn-off odor free.

My WRX, which had the turbo swapped out over a year ago, still smells like gas when I run the fans on fresh at a stop. I have never found a leak or any other explanation for it.

Phibs · Post by **Phibs** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 9:33 am

So if PTuning can't do it, and mach5 can tune with the AccessPort, should I just go with that? Can I take an AP map and convert it to Enginuity? I'd rather ditch the AP so keeping it installed is not desired.

Post by **Sabre** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 10:22 am

Phibs wrote:So if PTuning can't do it, and mach5 can tune with the AccessPort, should I just go with that? Can I take an AP map and convert it to Enginuity? I'd rather ditch the AP so keeping it installed is not desired.

Congrats on the install! Sorry I missed your calls, I was busy all weekend playing tour guide for family

Smell: As Darrin pointed out, you'll have the smell till everything burns off. Shouldn't be more than a week. With running as rich as you probably are, I'm not surprised. What kind of flange do you have from DP -> midpipe? Is it the donut one? If so, sometimes you might have to tighten that up a little more.

What happened to Jeff tuning it for you? If he couldn't tune it for you, I would have held off on the install.... just my $.02. If you don't want the AP, wait till you can find someone who can give you an Enginuity tune. You can't convert a AP map to an Enginuity map.

Phibs · Post by **Phibs** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 5:21 pm

Sabre wrote:
Phibs wrote:So if PTuning can't do it, and mach5 can tune with the AccessPort, should I just go with that? Can I take an AP map and convert it to Enginuity? I'd rather ditch the AP so keeping it installed is not desired.
Congrats on the install! Sorry I missed your calls, I was busy all weekend playing tour guide for family

Smell: As Darrin pointed out, you'll have the smell till everything burns off. Shouldn't be more than a week. With running as rich as you probably are, I'm not surprised. What kind of flange do you have from DP -> midpipe? Is it the donut one? If so, sometimes you might have to tighten that up a little more.

What happened to Jeff tuning it for you? If he couldn't tune it for you, I would have held off on the install.... just my $.02. If you don't want the AP, wait till you can find someone who can give you an Enginuity tune. You can't convert a AP map to an Enginuity map.

Turns out we missed a nut and a bolt on the UP/Turbo connection during the install. PTuning fixed it up nice for me, for a fee of course

But honestly thanks PTuning, you guys came through for me and I appreciate it.

As for the tune, Jeff is not available and unfortunately coordinating people that can help do the mods was more important. I will be going to AMS tomorrow for a tune.

Mr Kleen · Post by **Mr Kleen** » Tue Nov 06, 2007 8:29 am

remember the words of Uncle Ben: with great power comes great responsibility.

Post by **Sabre** » Tue Nov 06, 2007 9:26 am

Mr Kleen wrote:remember the words of Uncle Ben: with great power comes great responsibility.

+eleventy billion

Phibs · Post by **Phibs** » Tue Nov 06, 2007 8:07 pm

Well, got it tuned up at AMS which took ALL DAY due to various issues however it is running solid right now w/ a slight exhaust leak. Hopefully PTuning can rectify that tomorrow. I definitely recommend AMS to anyone looking to get a tune, the price is right and the service is excellent.

drwrx · Post by **drwrx** » Wed Nov 07, 2007 8:08 am

Phibs wrote:Well, got it tuned up at AMS . . . it is running solid right now . . .

So, don'r keep us in suspense, what did it put down?

Phibs wrote:I definitely recommend AMS to anyone looking to get a tune, the price is right and the service is excellent.

Glad to hear they did right by you.

TAPOUT · Post by **TAPOUT** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 11:34 am

So....any updates?