Just a quote...

Post by **Sabre** » Thu Dec 22, 2005 2:33 am

Considering all that is happening right now, I thought this would be very appropriate...

Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.
- Benjamin Franklin

Mr Kleen · Post by **Mr Kleen** » Thu Dec 22, 2005 3:26 pm

BF was the greatest of the "founding fathers" IMHO.

sirwilliam · Post by **sirwilliam** » Thu Dec 22, 2005 3:57 pm

I am pretty sure everything that came out of his mouth was a quote...and that is hard to do all the time

Mr Kleen · Post by **Mr Kleen** » Thu Dec 22, 2005 6:24 pm

so how about president Bu$h2 deciding to destroy civil liberties to protect civil liberties? we're loosing the very thing we're fighting for (or so they say we're fighting for): our way of life. America doesn't stand for secret spying on citizens with no judicial oversight; America doesn't stand for torture and kidnapping; America doesn't stand for denying citizens due process; America doesn't stand for collecting secret files on citizens who's only "crime" is expressing dissatisfaction with administration policies.

well, it didn't...

stop me before I rant again

sirwilliam · Post by **sirwilliam** » Thu Dec 22, 2005 7:32 pm

Mr Kleen wrote:so how about president Bu$h2 deciding to destroy civil liberties to protect civil liberties? we're loosing the very thing we're fighting for (or so they say we're fighting for): our way of life. America doesn't stand for secret spying on citizens with no judicial oversight; America doesn't stand for torture and kidnapping; America doesn't stand for denying citizens due process; America doesn't stand for collecting secret files on citizens who's only "crime" is expressing dissatisfaction with administration policies.

well, it didn't...

stop me before I rant again

I think you are floating towards a whirlpool...<splash>...grab the life preserver