2014 F-1 engine explained, kinda

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2014 F-1 engine explained, kinda

Postby zaxrex » Mon Feb 03, 2014 2:51 pm


If you can forgive the guy for confusing port and direct injection at times, kind of interesting.
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Question I have now is with the gearchanges being so quick, is there a need for a BOV? Between the intake volume, IC, and huge compressor and high boost, that is a lot of compressed air to manage.

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Re: 2014 F-1 engine explained, kinda

Postby ElZorro » Mon Feb 03, 2014 8:43 pm

Its amazing what you can do with 1.6L with all the extra bits around it.
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Re: 2014 F-1 engine explained, kinda

Postby Mr Kleen » Tue Feb 04, 2014 7:30 am

That turbo pre-spooler is pretty neat. I'm sure we'll see that in supercars before too long.

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Re: 2014 F-1 engine explained, kinda

Postby Sabre » Mon Feb 10, 2014 3:25 pm

That's a HELL of a lot of boost. With that high a redline, that explains why the fuel is pressurized so much.

I wonder if all the engine techs had to go through a bunch of training on how to tune a turbo engine and such.

lol, I want to know their AFR's and timing, hehe (Ya, like we would EVER get those from these guys)
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Re: 2014 F-1 engine explained, kinda

Postby ElZorro » Mon Feb 10, 2014 8:43 pm

Sabre wrote:I wonder if all the engine techs had to go through a bunch of training on how to tune a turbo engine and such.


Alot of "techs" at that level of autosports have masters in automotive engineering or mechanical engineering.
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Re: 2014 F-1 engine explained, kinda

Postby Sabre » Thu Feb 13, 2014 1:44 pm

ElZorro wrote:
Sabre wrote:I wonder if all the engine techs had to go through a bunch of training on how to tune a turbo engine and such.


Alot of "techs" at that level of autosports have masters in automotive engineering or mechanical engineering.

Oh, I totally get that... it's just tuning a N/A engine vs. a turbo'ed one with DI is very different. Not that they couldn't understand it, just that it requires a new perspective.
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Re: 2014 F-1 engine explained, kinda

Postby ElZorro » Thu Feb 13, 2014 6:27 pm

Sabre wrote:
ElZorro wrote:
Sabre wrote:I wonder if all the engine techs had to go through a bunch of training on how to tune a turbo engine and such.


Alot of "techs" at that level of autosports have masters in automotive engineering or mechanical engineering.

Oh, I totally get that... it's just tuning a N/A engine vs. a turbo'ed one with DI is very different. Not that they couldn't understand it, just that it requires a new perspective.


True. Its not as simple as turning a screw on the carb anymore.
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Re: 2014 F-1 engine explained, kinda

Postby Mr Kleen » Fri Apr 04, 2014 1:27 pm

Mercedes F1's Secret Is It Split Its Turbo In Half
but...
random internet person wrote:This isn't really news as most teams will probably have something similar going on. From what I've seen the energy recovery system sits between the turbine and compressor, so there is always going to be separation between the two. Mercedes might have theirs the farthest away, but that would only be for the purpose of packaging the system...

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I expect to see this type of tech on Ferrari's soon. They just released a hybrid and their first turbo since the F40.
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