Cylinder 4 Misfire

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So we're set for Tuesday afternoon at MTM's place. If you want to help out but need the address, send me a PM and I'll get it to you.
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i'd like to help out in whatever way i can.
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Everything's still on for tomorrow evening. I'll try to get the stock parts loaded in the car tonight but I have GOT to get some rest. At the earliest, we'll be starting around 5. More details as they arrive.
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Just a reminder and an update; if you can make it out, I'll be starting at MTM's around 6 or 7. (5 was too unrealistic especially with traffic.)
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Text me the address already. Only been waiting for a day.... shesh.
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are there already too many chefs for the stew? :lol:
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Thanks to everyone who helped out yesterday. The uninstall/ install went relatively painless. However, the car is going up on a tow truck today.

On the way back the bottom most light (see picture) on my DCCD started blinking at me. Which, to me, implies that the rear diff just shat itself. So after I clear my valued bits out of the car I'm putting a call through to Subaru Roadside and having them haul that thing out of my sight.
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Hey Chuck!
Sorry I couldn't make it over to help earlier :( Work has me pretty tied up at the moment (and not in that good way). If it was the rear diff, there is a separate light just for that. DCCD only works on the center diff, so I thought originally it was something with that. After reading these two threads though, I think your problem is going to be VERY easy to fix (including the ABS!)
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I had this and my abs light on for a while this past summer - codes indicated a problem with the right rear wheel speed sensor. weird thing is after I jacked up the car, wiggled the wires around and turned the wheel the lights went off and never came back
Sounds like one guy even had a blown fuse that caused it.
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Thanks! But, its not the lights that are bothering me so much as it is the grinding noise coming from the rear axle. Which I believe to be the cause of the lights. It's sounds like I've got a blender in the trunk.
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I'd double check all of the exhaust hangers and look for rubbing spots. Since the ABS light was on before the noise, it might be unrelated. I've had exhaust rumblings before that sounds terrible.
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Holy crap! That doesn't sound very good....

I'd agree with Sabre that it may be an exhaust thing. Exhaust rattle noises can be pretty horrid sounding. For your sake I'm hoping that it isn't any of the 3 diffs.

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Sabre wrote:I'd double check all of the exhaust hangers and look for rubbing spots. Since the ABS light was on before the noise, it might be unrelated. I've had exhaust rumblings before that sounds terrible.
Nah, the noise started before the ABS light. About a week before the last meet. It's ever-present as long as the wheels are moving, even when coasting in Neutral.

Ugh! Then people ask me why I drink.
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:cry: :cry:
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I did the rear section of the exhaust. Three stock rubber hangars hold that thing on, I would be shocked if the noise that Chuck is hearing would be the pipes. Especially since the noise only happens while moving.
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yikes! vibes, dude. sorry i couldn't make it over to help. swamped.
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I do hope all comes-out well.
I'm crossing my fingers for you.
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UPDATE: The driver's side rear wheel bearings had to be replaced after a bolt on the rear axle loosened up enough for the bearings to tear themselves apart. The differential however, is fine. They got the engine apart and Cylinder 4 DOES of cracked ringlands (which are apparently the space between piston rings). They're still trying to determine whether or not this is covered in my warranty.

I think my next mod will include forged pistons.
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Alright! Finally at least some positive news!

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I just don't see how this isn't a warranty issue?
How can they claim it isn't?
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Bearings seem to go in Subie's with high millage or lots of heavy cornering.... I have no idea why mine haven't let loose.

Forged pistons are definitely the way to go!!!

As for the ring lands: They could make the case that it was because of an improper tune... but since you are running stock now, I don't know if they can make that argument ;)
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Well chaps, the verdict is in. What say they? In a word: NO. In more words: I'm getting that cracked ringlands are a results of detonation or an overly lean condition and as such are NOT covered under the warranty. The dealer wants $5600 for a new short block on top of whatever they're charging for taking the engine apart in the first place, which was estimated around $1200.

I still have a few phone calls to make but if you don't hear from me this weekend it's because I went up to Cherry Hill to throw a bomb through a window and will probably be pending the next few years in lock up. But it'll be totally worth it.
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Sorry to hear Chuck... I'd definitely try to escalate it to the Mid-Atlantic Rep!

For $5600, you could get a built short block installed!
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Damn, that stinks. A lot. :-(

Towing to AR Fab?
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Well I've already decided that Subaru's not get any more of my money or business beyond what I already owe them for this POS. If fact, since I got suckered in to that Gold Plus Added Security warranty when I bought the thing I want to see if I cancel that and at least get a prorated amount back from them. Since it's not doing me any good anyhow.

So yes, if this next phone call goes the way I expect it to, once I get up the money to get it back from the dealer, the car will be heading to AR Fab.
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