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Innovate Motorsports: We got your memo: SC kit for the BRZ!

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 9:39 pm
by Sabre
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TWIN SCREW SUPERCHARGER - The twin screw (positive displacement) supercharger provides unrivaled low and mid range torque while still providing impressive peak power. The proprietary internal design of the supercharger offers exceptional isentropic efficiency when compared to other supercharger and turbocharger designs and only requires servicing every 30,000 miles!
INTEGRATED INTERCOOLER - The intake manifold features highly efficient Laminova® liquid to air intercooler cores inside (Stage 2 only).
FUEL SYSTEM UPGRADES - The Stage 2 kit includes high flow injectors and a fuel pump to support higher horsepower levels.
TUNING - All kits include a professionally engineered EcuTek calibration to provide optimum performance and "OEM" driveability.
OEM AIRBOX - The original airbox and MAF sensor is maintained on the suction (cold) side to prevent damage to sensitive electronics, maintain OEM appearance and provide excellent air filtration.
HIGH PERFORMANCE INTAKE MANIFOLD - The purpose built intake manifold is a direct replacement and provides superior performance over the stock intake manifold.
Sadly, no performance numbers up yet... but can I get a HELL YA?!?!? This is EXACTLY what I have been looking for. The BRZ doesn't need that much power, but this should give it a nice push. The SC should keep that nice torque curve too. I guess we'll just have to wait to see the numbers though!

Re: Innovate Motorsports: We got your memo: SC kit for the B

Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 3:38 am
by Mr Kleen
With at least 3 different kits coming out, this summer should be very interesting for the BRZ twins...

Re: Innovate Motorsports: We got your memo: SC kit for the B

Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 12:34 pm
by zaxrex
Just as long as EcuTek don't still have the tuner lockout option...

Re: Innovate Motorsports: We got your memo: SC kit for the B

Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 12:52 pm
by thermobox
Love the "oem" ish look. This seems like a no brainer place to put the blower.

I would like to see more s-chargers in this location and I would like to see more t-chargers in the new oem location (lower front of engine).

I don't like when they try and cram them high and in front of the engine.

Re: Innovate Motorsports: We got your memo: SC kit for the B

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 2:24 pm
by goob_os101
Will this fit on my wife's 2012 impreza? There are similarities with the FA (BRZ) and FB20 (Impreza) engines...would be a nice little sleeper to SC on the new impreza/crosstrek!

Re: Innovate Motorsports: We got your memo: SC kit for the B

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 4:40 pm
by Sabre
I'm guessing not. FA is Direct Injection, FB is not... yet AFAIK.

Re: Innovate Motorsports: We got your memo: SC kit for the B

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 9:29 am
by goob_os101
It would bolt on right? Innovate Motorsports would need to engineer the EcuTek calibration for the non direct injection FB...but is probally not worth the effort since not many people would spend the money to SC their impreza.

Re: Innovate Motorsports: We got your memo: SC kit for the B

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 10:47 am
by Sabre
No, DI requires very high pressure fuel pumps, lines, etc. Definitely would not just bolt on.

Re: Innovate Motorsports: We got your memo: SC kit for the B

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 1:02 am
by Mr Kleen
It's a completely different engine. If you want more power out of that engine Subaru sells a WRX.

Re: Innovate Motorsports: We got your memo: SC kit for the B

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 9:18 am
by thermobox
Cusco wil be rebadging this in JDMland as "their" new sc kit.

Re: Innovate Motorsports: We got your memo: SC kit for the B

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 10:08 am
by drwrx
Desperately want to see performance #s, oh and price.

Re: Innovate Motorsports: We got your memo: SC kit for the B

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 12:19 pm
by zaxrex
You already know price.
Not low

Re: Innovate Motorsports: We got your memo: SC kit for the B

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 3:05 pm
by Raven
zaxrex wrote:You already know price.
Not low
Seriously. The supercharger kits for my miata started at $4K for just the parts and no tune. :roll:

Re: Innovate Motorsports: We got your memo: SC kit for the B

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 4:33 pm
by Sabre
The SC kit from Flying Miata, complete with parts and tune is 5.1k. Considering it's a complete kit and pretty much race proven, I don't think it's a bad deal.

WRX/STI: (new)
Turbo: 1-2k
Exhaust: 1k
Tune: 500-1k
Intercooler: 500-1k
Injectors: $800
Fuel pump: $90

Suddenly 5k doesn't seem so bad...

Re: Innovate Motorsports: We got your memo: SC kit for the B

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 11:05 am
by Mr Kleen
That Miata SC kit is so complete they even include zip-ties. The only thing I'd do is machine the logo off the intake and have it painted in black crinkle-finish to match the rest of the engine bay. Not that I've though about this a lot...

Re: Innovate Motorsports: We got your memo: SC kit for the B

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 2:23 pm
by thermatico
I would consider trading in my G37 for the BRZ with the S/C. The Infiniti is nice, but it's a big and heavy car. Something lighter and smaller is starting to tempt me.

Re: Innovate Motorsports: We got your memo: SC kit for the B

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 2:07 pm
by Raven
Sabre wrote:The SC kit from Flying Miata, complete with parts and tune is 5.1k. Considering it's a complete kit and pretty much race proven, I don't think it's a bad deal.

WRX/STI: (new)
Turbo: 1-2k
Exhaust: 1k
Tune: 500-1k
Intercooler: 500-1k
Injectors: $800
Fuel pump: $90

Suddenly 5k doesn't seem so bad...
It's more that you have to spend it in one big lump rather than broken up over time.

But I still think that's a lot to spend making your car a little faster.

Re: Innovate Motorsports: We got your memo: SC kit for the B

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 2:28 pm
by Sabre
Raven wrote: It's more that you have to spend it in one big lump rather than broken up over time.

But I still think that's a lot to spend making your car a little faster.
Actually, you can buy everything on that list separately. The Intercooler you can add without a tune. The rest you can add individually with the exception of the turbo (you need to do the rest before that) and you'll just need slight tune tweaks.

The above, on a STI, will get you to an easy 400AWHP, stock they are 225AWHP.... so that's not a little faster...

Re: Innovate Motorsports: We got your memo: SC kit for the B

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 3:02 pm
by Raven
Sabre wrote:
Raven wrote:It's more that you have to spend it in one big lump rather than broken up over time.

But I still think that's a lot to spend making your car a little faster.
Actually, you can buy everything on that list separately. The Intercooler you can add without a tune. The rest you can add individually with the exception of the turbo (you need to do the rest before that) and you'll just need slight tune tweaks.

The above, on a STI, will get you to an easy 400AWHP, stock they are 225AWHP.... so that's not a little faster...
I was talking about the supercharger being a one lump sum thing...

And as a percentage, I don't think a miata SC or this one for a BRZ will be as much bang for the buck as a STi.

Re: Innovate Motorsports: We got your memo: SC kit for the B

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2013 6:02 pm
by thermatico
The guys over at Edmunds installed one of these on their long term BRZ.

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You can check out the article here.

Re: Innovate Motorsports: We got your memo: SC kit for the B

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2013 12:40 pm
by Mr Kleen
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Nice piece of kit, great choice of music for the video.

Re: Innovate Motorsports: We got your memo: SC kit for the B

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2013 1:19 pm
by Mr Kleen
2013 Scion FR-S: Driveability With Supercharger
Edmunds.com wrote:But the supercharger install has brought on some low-speed drivability issues. The kind of issues that when you're at full song, you never, ever notice.
It's mostly just at takeoff from a stop. There's some occasional jerkiness to the throttle delivery as you get going, and it can make the FR-S hard to drive smoothly.
I imagine with a little work this can be tuned out. Plus, it's not enough of a nuisance to make me want to stop driving this car.
Looks like a great kit, I just wish it came with factory tuning and cooling.

Re: Innovate Motorsports: We got your memo: SC kit for the B

Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2013 3:40 pm
by Sabre
I bet 99% that is a tuning issue. The hardest part about tuning any modified car is the low end. It takes me no time at all to tune the high end, but low is a b*tch.

Re: Innovate Motorsports: We got your memo: SC kit for the B

Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2013 11:14 am
by Mr Kleen
I imagine there are a TON of variables down there.

Re: Innovate Motorsports: We got your memo: SC kit for the B

Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2013 11:58 am
by Sabre
There are...
Larger injectors don't usually spray well (this is changing) at low flows
Engine/coolant/cylinder temperatures (during warm up)
Because things are happening slower, you feel more
Airflow isn't as consistant
Outside temp matters more
etc. etc.